Comments on: Lifting The Veil of Polygamy http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/ A discussion of differences and similarities between Mormonism and Evangelical Christianity Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:13:18 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Divide? Maybe not so much — Part 2 | Times & Seasons, An Onymous Mormon Blog http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-11241 Divide? Maybe not so much — Part 2 | Times & Seasons, An Onymous Mormon Blog Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:25:19 +0000 http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-11241 [...] than some evangelicals and Latter-day Saints think. An LDS commentator at Tim’s blog once stated that, “Only two can claim legitimate authority passed from one man to another as it was done in [...] [...] than some evangelicals and Latter-day Saints think. An LDS commentator at Tim’s blog once stated that, “Only two can claim legitimate authority passed from one man to another as it was done in [...]

]]> By: Kullervo http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4544 Kullervo Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:39:26 +0000 http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4544 <i>I’m sure you would agree that by academic standards, the JD is hardly a reliable account.</i> Says who? I’m sure you would agree that by academic standards, the JD is hardly a reliable account.

Says who?

]]> By: frofreak http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4542 frofreak Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:48:24 +0000 http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4542 True enough. But, and this is not meant as a defense of BY (I believe he really did teach or say many of the things he is purported to have), I'm sure you would agree that by academic standards, the JD is hardly a reliable account. I am not going to venture into where it is or isn't accurate, I really have no idea. Though, at the very least, it gives us great insight into the minds of early church leaders and their evolving theology. I think I just hijacked the thread...woops! ;) True enough. But, and this is not meant as a defense of BY (I believe he really did teach or say many of the things he is purported to have), I’m sure you would agree that by academic standards, the JD is hardly a reliable account. I am not going to venture into where it is or isn’t accurate, I really have no idea.

Though, at the very least, it gives us great insight into the minds of early church leaders and their evolving theology.

I think I just hijacked the thread…woops! ;)

]]> By: Seth R. http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4539 Seth R. Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:20:26 +0000 http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4539 Very often I find that even the "weird stuff" Brigham said doesn't bother me all that much. Very often I find that even the “weird stuff” Brigham said doesn’t bother me all that much.

]]> By: Kullervo http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4537 Kullervo Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:39:42 +0000 http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4537 Yeah, but BY said <i>tons</i> of stuff like that. Find a copy of the Journal of Discourses and flip through it. Yeah, but BY said tons of stuff like that. Find a copy of the Journal of Discourses and flip through it.

]]> By: frofreak http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4534 frofreak Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:57:14 +0000 http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4534 Well Tim, I believe that says something significant of your veiws on the infallability of prophets. We probably don't jive on this issue, but it wouldn't be the first. BTW, the phrasing may have been crass, but I by no means hold the veiw that somehow he was a fallen prophet, or anything like that. It's just that not everything that ever came forth from his mouth was the word of God, and some far from it. But this is really no different from prophets of old, don't you think? One key difference is that the record is much more recent with BY, leaving him open to a higher level of scrutiny than Biblical prophets, and inevitably this humanizes him (with significant flaws and all) to a degree that I think we don't see with biblical prophets. Well Tim,

I believe that says something significant of your veiws on the infallability of prophets. We probably don’t jive on this issue, but it wouldn’t be the first.

BTW, the phrasing may have been crass, but I by no means hold the veiw that somehow he was a fallen prophet, or anything like that. It’s just that not everything that ever came forth from his mouth was the word of God, and some far from it. But this is really no different from prophets of old, don’t you think? One key difference is that the record is much more recent with BY, leaving him open to a higher level of scrutiny than Biblical prophets, and inevitably this humanizes him (with significant flaws and all) to a degree that I think we don’t see with biblical prophets.

]]> By: holdinator http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4532 holdinator Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:00:08 +0000 http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4532 I certainly don't hold chapter and section headings in the same regard as the scriptures themselves; but that being said, my comment was directed at the honesty, or lack thereof, in the treatment of the issues by Living Hope Ministries. Then again, honest examination of Mormonism has never been a strength of Living Hope Ministries. I also like how they showed the one woman talking about how in the FLDS tradition they didn't celebrate Christmas, but instead celebrated Joseph Smith's birthday, and then showed footage of the LDS church's celebration of Joseph Smith's 200th birthday at the Conference Center: leaving the wonderful impression that the LDS church must also consider Joseph Smith's birth much more important than Jesus' birth (ignoring that every year the church holds a First Presidency Christmas Devotional at the Conference Center, and the celebration of Joseph's 200th birthday was a once in a century type thing). Anyway, this thread has been interesting to say the least. I certainly don’t hold chapter and section headings in the same regard as the scriptures themselves; but that being said, my comment was directed at the honesty, or lack thereof, in the treatment of the issues by Living Hope Ministries. Then again, honest examination of Mormonism has never been a strength of Living Hope Ministries.

I also like how they showed the one woman talking about how in the FLDS tradition they didn’t celebrate Christmas, but instead celebrated Joseph Smith’s birthday, and then showed footage of the LDS church’s celebration of Joseph Smith’s 200th birthday at the Conference Center: leaving the wonderful impression that the LDS church must also consider Joseph Smith’s birth much more important than Jesus’ birth (ignoring that every year the church holds a First Presidency Christmas Devotional at the Conference Center, and the celebration of Joseph’s 200th birthday was a once in a century type thing).

Anyway, this thread has been interesting to say the least.

]]> By: Kullervo http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4531 Kullervo Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:23:37 +0000 http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4531 I believe that it's been said that chapter and section headings are scripture, too. I believe that it’s been said that chapter and section headings are scripture, too.

]]> By: holdinator http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4530 holdinator Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:20:57 +0000 http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4530 Just a brief comment on the film. I love how most of the "quotes" shown highlighted from D&C 132 are from the section heading not the revelation itself. :) Just a brief comment on the film. I love how most of the “quotes” shown highlighted from D&C 132 are from the section heading not the revelation itself. :)

]]> By: Tim http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4529 Tim Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:07:19 +0000 http://ldstalk.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/lifting-the-veil-of-polygamy/#comment-4529 to hear any Mormon say that about any former prophet is significant sound in my ears. to hear any Mormon say that about any former prophet is significant sound in my ears.

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