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Comment on The Disobedient by Jared C

Jared C — Thu, 16 May 2013 03:14:51 +0000

. . .of the notion. . .

Comment on The Disobedient by Jared C

Jared C — Thu, 16 May 2013 03:14:23 +0000

Gundek, disabuse yourself the notion that I will likely provide a valuable perspective.

Comment on The Disobedient by gundek

gundek — Thu, 16 May 2013 02:00:51 +0000

Eric,

I agree with the value of Rom 13, as long as it’s balanced by Acts 5:29.

Comment on The Disobedient by gundek

gundek — Thu, 16 May 2013 01:58:45 +0000

Jared,

Jesus the pragmatist? I think we are reading different books.

But seriously many give according to their means or even beyond their means as an act of worship, not mainly pragmatism. I’m wondering who all these Christians that you’ve met are? I wouldn’t even say that most practicing Mormons are pragmatic in their giving.

I’d also point out that you are comparing an institutions official teaching to your evaluation to peoples motives. When you said “Every Christian I have ever met practices the pragmatic withholding of the word of God.” I kind of expected you to have a valuable outsiders perspective that I could learn something from.

Comment on The Disobedient by Jared C

Jared C — Thu, 16 May 2013 01:19:08 +0000

Whether or not you are called, we live in a society where support can be distilled to dollars.
Even those that can’t teach can buy bibles to smuggle. Christians that drive luxury cars (or cars at all) could have helped smuggle bibles with that money, right?

I submit that Christians make these decisions mainly on pragmatic grounds, even if they justify them otherwise.

How to cooperate with an anti-christian government was a question presented Jesus, who resolved it in a quite pragmatic way.

Comment on The Disobedient by Eric

Eric — Thu, 16 May 2013 01:19:02 +0000

Gundek — My remark about criticism was meant to be funny more than a serious reaction to anything you said; I should have probably added a smiley at the end. But to answer your question briefly, despite the stance of the church during the polygamy area, it has at least in the modern era placed a great emphasis on believers and the church being subject to governments. The gist of Romans 13:1-7 is one of our Articles of Faith and is regularly taught. While not proselytizing in China (among other places) may be a pragmatic move, I believe the main reason for it is based on principle.

Comment on The Disobedient by gundek

gundek — Thu, 16 May 2013 00:12:11 +0000

You seem to be assuming that each Christian as an individual has an equal calling in spreading the word. Obviously, I think that is an unsupportable position (Jam 3:1). I don’t think it’s a pragmatic decision for an individual understanding that they are neither called nor prepared to teach the word, aspiring, “to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands” (1 Thes 4:11) as the apostle taught.

I don’t see how Mormon structure requires a pragmatism, as opposed to the Roman Catholics during Poland’s Solidarity movement or the Egyptian Copts?

I think Eric’s answer that Temples are so important that Cooperation with the GDR was justified makes more sense.

Comment on The Disobedient by Jared C

Jared C — Wed, 15 May 2013 23:39:05 +0000

Mormons must be more pragmatic because their congregations depend on structure and contact with the main body of the church. Completely unattached Mormons are generally seen as threats rather than friends. It is hard to maintain Mormonism as an underground faith– perhaps one of the reasons they decided to leave the U.S. in the 1840s and why they gave up polygamy.

Comment on The Disobedient by Jared C

Jared C — Wed, 15 May 2013 23:35:13 +0000

How much of your free time are you giving to bible distribution and proseltyzing. My guess is that its not 100%. For whatever reason you find it impractical to spend all of your time doing that.