Disturbing

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It may surprise many LDS but I have a great distaste for General Conference protesters. I think what they do is despicable. They show no respect for LDS members and they show know respect for Christ who they claim to be representing. Holding a sign and shouting is THE LOWEST form of dialouge. It speaks poorly of those who do it no matter what their message. It does little to move any conversation forward. There are anonymous readers of this blog who I know spend considerable time participating in these sorts of activities. I think they are wrong to do so. There is little fruit than can be born out of this sort of thing. If you really want to save Mormons, do the real work of getting to know some of them on a personal level. This is just a cheap shortcut. My guess is that many of these individuals don’t bother to develop relationships with other people is because they have ZERO relational skills (as demonstrated by their actions).

There are three reasons I dislike these actions.
1) They misrepresent Christians and classical-Christianity to Mormons. Christianity is offense enough on its own. We don’t need to be mocking and degrading that which other people find sacred. The base motivation of holding signs and yelling at Mormons passing by is basically an attempt to ruin there day and their event. I doubt those who participate have ever been motivated by anyone acting in the same manner to them.
2) It reinforces to Mormons that they are a persecuted people. If they are persecuted, that means that they must be right concerning all of their doctrines and practices. It also communicates to Mormons that this is what they can expect from all other non-Mormon Christians.
3) It’s an expression of mistaking the beast for the dragon. If you really think that the Mormon church is the tool of Satan, you need to keep in mind that Mormons are not the enemy. Satan is the enemy. Mormons are the deceived and lost. Why would you heap insults on the lost? Is your own righteousness and orthodoxy so weak that you need to have yourself compared to someone else?

The only group that angers me more is the church that runs godhatesfags.org. They are disgusting. God hates sin, not sinners.

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3 thoughts on “Disturbing

  1. Yeah, as I noted in a blog, I’ve been contemplating Pauls words in 1 Cor. 13 a lot lately.

    1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
    2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
    3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
    4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
    5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

    On the same token though, how many of these folks thought of these actions and put them into play on their own? I am willing to bet that there is a religious leader somewhere behind this stirring these folks up to this kind of false witness of the truth of Christ.

    I’ve heard this Matt Slick guy doing a radio show. I feel bad for this guy, he’s going to be unhappy when it is all played out. His whole focus is on hostile attack of others. Not a witness of truth, which will bring error into the open by simple conversation, but a pointed, methodical approach to instigating hostility.

    He hides behind the position that he is being christlike in his confrontational manner, but He is not Christ and he certainly has no more authority to act in God’s name than I do. I have every right, priviledge and ability to read and ponder and understand scripture as he does. It is pure ego to think that he along can act for God in naming what he feels is true doctrine.

    Silly posturing as far as I’m concerned.

  2. Good scripture.

    I’m sure there is some religious leader encouraging them, but we’d have to figure out what we mean by “leader”. Billy Graham or James Dobson is not behind some closed door telling people, “Hey I think we should find some loud offensive crazies and sick them on the Marmons.” There is no larger conspiracy.

    Evangelicals don’t have a central authority (other than Christ). So people are free to form their own churches and organizations and act as they feel inspired. For example Westboro Church that runs godhatesfags.com is basically made up by the pastor’s 9 children and their families. It’s just one family organized into a church.

  3. You hit the nail on the head. As a Mormon (And I do consider myself Christian, I hope that doesn’t offend anyone), I have been to events in New York where these kind of people show up. They have video cameras pointed at you and shout in your face. I assume they show the film to fellow “believers”, a testament to what a wonderful job they did witnessing to the cult masses. After I get passed the shock and wonderment at how someone could be so flamboyant (and rude), I actually think it is kind of cool. It doesn’t happen very often that someone is “angry” with me because of what I believe. I guess it makes me even stronger in my beliefs.

    In contrast, I’ve had Christians come to my door wanting to pray for me, or share a quick message. I invited them in, prayed with them and listened to their message. I am much more inclined to listen to someone when they respect my beliefs and let me ask questions about the message they share. I just can’t take someone serious who calls everyone that disagrees with them non-Christian or a cult. If this is really how you feel, keep it to yourself because it won’t help you get through to them. The best conversations I have had with people are the ones where we are both considerate of the other’s faith. I even think I can say that most of the time I walk away with a greater appreciation of their point of view.

    Recently, I’ve begun to reevaluate my faith in the LDS religion. This questioning came about because someone respectfully examined certain aspects of the LDS religion and shared the information with me. The main reason I listened to them was because the information was not shared in a biased way. I felt like they were sincerely searching for the truth and I am all for that. When he brought up unfavorable information about the LDS church I would study it, trying to understand what it meant. I have to say that many of the things brought up where not really shocking, but there have been a few things that have really challenged my faith.

    The bottom line is that people brought up these things to me before, but I didn’t listen because they were either blatantly biased or angry when they approached me. So I immediately dismissed everything they said as a lie or ignorance. I only really began to reflect on these things when someone that was respectful and loving brought them to my attention. So your right, if you really want to “help” Mormons, or anyone else that doesn’t share your doctrine, be kind and above all respectful.

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